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Dec. 14th, 2014 @ 11:12 am December Days: Dream Job
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From:andrewducker
Date:December 14th, 2014 05:17 pm (UTC)
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I'm curious as to what you didn't like in Scrum.
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From:cartesiandaemon
Date:December 14th, 2014 06:32 pm (UTC)
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I don't have any firsthand experience, so it might be completely wrong, I would be interested to hear more people describe their experience. I heard a stereotype that scrum had a tendency to be buzzwordy and often follow superficial agile processes, while not necessarily actually doing the things that were most worthwhile. That sounded plausible to me, but I've no experience of it (and even if true, it presumably could be done well).
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From:andrewducker
Date:December 14th, 2014 09:06 pm (UTC)
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Scrum itself isn't bad. It's all fairly obvious stuff (do work in short "sprints", make sure you're doing the right thing at the end of each sprint, have a quick check-in with the whole team each day to make sure nobody is stuck, keep track of how much stuff has been done and use that to work out how fast you're going).

It _is_ abused by companies, who buy in to the form but not the ideas behind them.
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From:cartesiandaemon
Date:December 14th, 2014 10:29 pm (UTC)
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Yeah, that may be what I'm seeing -- not that scrum is automatically bad, but because it's commonly misused, that might be as or more high profile as it being done well.
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From:pw201
Date:December 16th, 2014 10:52 am (UTC)
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I've found that the planning meetings are tedious and annoying to teams who've previously been used to getting project managers to do all that stuff. Scrum does push some of what had been project management onto the team, and they don't always like that.

Also, at some point in the Scrum fad at my previous employer, there was an idea going around (as the teaching of some Scrum trainers, I think) that it was bad for a single person to work on a story. Again, if you've been used to being left to get on with it, that can be annoying.
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From:andrewducker
Date:December 16th, 2014 08:04 pm (UTC)
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"Scrum does push some of what had been project management onto the team, and they don't always like that."

My view would be that this is a feature, not a bug. Teams should be heavily involved in the project, understand it on a wider level, and feed into the planning/scheduling. The idea that management, who are by definition further away from the work, will know best is a pretty silly one.

(Management provide constraints, communication channels, and external resources - I'm not saying they have no use at all.)
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From:captain_aj
Date:December 15th, 2014 01:27 am (UTC)
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The industry and blogosphere that has grown up around scrum is laden with bullshit and circle-jerking, which is how you get the impression you do. Steer clear of people who have paid actual money to be "certified" as scrum masters.

However, it's a lot nicer to witness/experience scrum being adapted and practised in reality by smart people.